opinions on java?

[motsdrama]

for my first ever "real" programming class, i was taught to use java to an extensive degree, and it was the first real language i learned. because of this, learning every other language so far (C++, Python) has felt so much easier in comparison, and because of that im glad java was the first language i learned. has anyone else had an experience similar to this?

[giltog]

lol my first language was php jealous..
java def seems like a better starting lang.. very strict with the object-oriented paradigm, which forces u to write idiomatic OOP good foundations 4 later on im pretty big on c# lately tho

[motsdrama]

hoo boy, C# is not something im ready to dip my toes into lol. im still admittedly very new to programming so ive been having a hard time branching out to the funkier stuff like web focused languages and SQL. even so, i know i gotta try it out someday, so maybe ill give php a shot when that time comes!

[giltog]

php is easy.. just historically kinda iffy
some quotes from my main man rasmus lerdorf (creator of php):

PHP 8 is significantly better because it contains a lot less of my code.

We have things like protected properties. We have abstract methods. We have all this stuff that your computer science teacher told you you should be using. I don't care about this crap at all.

I don't know how to stop it, there was never any intent to write a programming language [...] I have absolutely no idea how to write a programming language, I just kept adding the next logical step on the way.

learning sql and web langs are a good step building a full-stack web app is rewarding

[motsdrama]

php is easy.. just historically kinda iffy
some quotes from my main man rasmus lerdorf (creator of php):

PHP 8 is significantly better because it contains a lot less of my code.

We have things like protected properties. We have abstract methods. We have all this stuff that your computer science teacher told you you should be using. I don't care about this crap at all.

I don't know how to stop it, there was never any intent to write a programming language [...] I have absolutely no idea how to write a programming language, I just kept adding the next logical step on the way.

learning sql and web langs are a good step building a full-stack web app is rewarding

i know learning SQL is important, but... ive been struggling SO hard with it. it's so completely different from every other language ive learned so far, and im limping by in my SQL class right now im sure it's something i'll figure out in time, it's just been tough so far.

also wow, the creator of php himself said those things? ill take your word on it being easy, but those quotes do not fill me with confidence!

[fartcave]

lol. what does it do that scratch.mit.edu doesn't?? these "programmers" won't even use tools MADE for them

[motsdrama]

lol. what does it do that scratch.mit.edu doesn't?? these "programmers" won't even use tools MADE for them

as a scratch veteran i can confirm it's better than a lot of people give it credit for, but unfortunately i cant get a job by putting "scratch enthusiast" on my resume, so thats one point java has over it

[slobgobbler9000]

i love java. i’m a java cheerleader. but rust better. i am however a full time java backend developer (i love my life and my wife)

- Duke

[mad scientist]

this is embarrassing to admit but I have never actually touched java. but I like java programs because it just runs without anything special.
My first language was javascript and I can say it is the most confusing language that i have ever written in. i did some work in C later on and even that was easier to work with.

[motsdrama]

this is embarrassing to admit but I have never actually touched java. but I like java programs because it just runs without anything special.
My first language was javascript and I can say it is the most confusing language that i have ever written in. i did some work in C later on and even that was easier to work with.

damn, im always told that Javascript is EASIER to work with than java. that does not give me high hopes!